{"id":13628,"date":"2020-03-09T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-03-09T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/?p=13628"},"modified":"2020-03-09T09:52:44","modified_gmt":"2020-03-09T14:52:44","slug":"metrics-monday-peter-kennedy-judea-pearl-or-both","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/13628","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;Metrics Monday: Peter Kennedy, Judea Pearl, or Both?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/sc.uakron.edu\/economics\/faculty-staff\/bio-detail.dot?u=myers\">Steve<\/a> writes:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Marc,<\/p><p>I have followed your blog silently for a while now and always appreciate your approach to applied econometrics. I have a question for you if you will indulge me. I am a fan of Peter Kennedy ever since his &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1111\/1467-6419.00179?casa_token=c-POu-Pg-M4AAAAA:w0sj2zBEpvgFzAVXnKj_4S3MfVU7MNTQjG0GW-G2y0FfnpPTbMD-TUmtfJVq3dhaLOUlfNFdLGb07Qo\">Sinning in the Basement<\/a>&#8221; article and its inclusion in his <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Guide-Econometrics-6th-Peter-Kennedy\/dp\/1405182571\">Guide to Econometrics<\/a><\/em>. Peter\u2019s chapter on applied economics has shaped my econometric and data science teaching daily ever since. Last week I discovered Judea Pearl\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Book-Why-Science-Cause-Effect\/dp\/046509760X\">Book of Why<\/a>. So I set out to see what I had been missing. I discovered Pearl wrote <a href=\"https:\/\/ftp.cs.ucla.edu\/pub\/stat_ser\/r391.pdf\">a paper on Haavelmo<\/a> who I read at Ohio State over 40 years ago. I discovered exchanges between Pearl and Guido Imbens &#8230; I began to search for Peter Kennedy and Judea Pearl. Your <a href=\"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/11098\">blog entry<\/a> &#8230; is one of the few google hits that came up for that search.<\/p><p>As you mention you are a fan of both Kennedy and Pearl, here are the questions that are on my mind: Are there links between Kennedy\u2019s guidance on how to do applied economics and Pearl\u2019s how to do causality? Do the two together make one a better applied econometrician? Do the two together constitute something business cares about?<\/p><p>I wrote a piece on what Kennedy\u2019s rules mean from an ethical point of view. It is going to be published by O\u2019Reilly Media in a collection:\u00a0<em>97 Things About Ethics Everyone In Data Science Should Know<\/em>, edited by Bill Franks. You can find my entry at\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/econdatascience.com\/ethics-rules-in-applied-econometrics-and-data-science\/\">https:\/\/econdatascience.com\/ethics-rules-in-applied-econometrics-and-data-science\/<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>My answers:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>Are there links between Kennedy\u2019s guidance on how to do applied economics and Pearl\u2019s how to do causality?&nbsp;<\/em><\/p><p>A little bit, but not that many. Kennedy was largely concerned with ethics (nowadays, he&#8217;d write about replicability, transparency, pre-analysis plans, and so on) and he was writing pre-Credibility Revolution (so before causality was &#8220;a thing&#8221;), whereas Pearl is largely concerned&nbsp;with making explicit the assumptions&nbsp;that can lead to causal inference, and he is clearly a major actor of the Credibility Revolution&#8211;if not in economics, at least clearly outside of it. I think the link is mainly this: Kennedy would say that you need to be clear about the limitations of your work; Pearl would say that you need to be clear about your assumptions, and about stating explicitly the causal model you have in mind. I see limitations as related to those assumptions.<\/p><p><em>Do the two together make one a better applied econometrician?<\/em>&nbsp;<\/p><p>Yes, no doubt. Kennedy is all about observational data and about providing clear, intuitive, math- and jargon-free (as much as possible) guidance about how to do good empirical work, but ignoring causality. Pearl is all about causality. As an economist, I&#8217;d recommend Kennedy&nbsp;as well Angrist and Pischke more than I&#8217;d recommend Kennedy&nbsp;and Pearl, or I&#8217;d substitute Morgan and Winship for Pearl, since their book is more easily accessible to economists. (Note: This is not a knock on Judea Pearl, whose contribution to our understanding has been nothing short of colossal. I just find that his <em>Causality <\/em>book is overkill for most economists.)<\/p><p><em>Do the two together constitute something business cares about?<\/em><\/p><p>It depends on what allows maximizing profit&#8212;prediction or inference. If it&#8217;s prediction, then no: they should be all about machine learning methods. If it&#8217;s about causal inference, then yes, because the Kennedy and Pearl together will make you a better user of data and econometric methods, and a sharper thinker on identification and (structural) assumptions. You might think &#8220;Does business really do causal inference?&#8221; I know economists who work for Amazon, and it turns out the answer is &#8220;Yes,&#8221; at least for Amazon, which apparently has a number of people working on causal inference. (Though from a microeconomic-theoretic perspective, I imagine the ability to invest in that type of research is facilitated by extra-normal profits, as with any old R&amp;D activity!)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steve writes: Marc, I have followed your blog silently for a while now and always appreciate your approach to applied econometrics. I have a question&#8230;<\/p>\n<div class=\"more-link-wrapper\"><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/13628\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&#8216;Metrics Monday: Peter Kennedy, Judea Pearl, or Both?<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13628","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","entry"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1gPg8-3xO","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13628","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13628"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13628\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13641,"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13628\/revisions\/13641"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13628"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13628"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13628"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}