{"id":6784,"date":"2012-07-10T05:00:07","date_gmt":"2012-07-10T09:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/?p=6784"},"modified":"2012-07-10T07:43:45","modified_gmt":"2012-07-10T11:43:45","slug":"trivial-confirmations-of-the-obvious","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/6784","title":{"rendered":"Trivial Confirmations of the Obvious?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An <a title=\"Political Scientists are Lousy Forecasters\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2012\/06\/24\/opinion\/sunday\/political-scientists-are-lousy-forecasters.html?pagewanted=all\" target=\"_blank\">op-ed<\/a> by <a title=\"Jacqueline Stevens\" href=\"http:\/\/www.polisci.northwestern.edu\/people\/JacquelineStevens.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Jacqueline Stevens<\/a> a few weekends ago in the <em>New York Times<\/em> made a lot of waves. In it, Stevens &#8212; a professor in the political science department at Northwestern University &#8212; essentially declares herself in favor of eliminating National Science Foundation funding for political science research.<\/p>\n<p>Her reason? Political scientists are lousy forecasters.<\/p>\n<p>This post not going to be a response to Jacqueline Stevens. GWU&#8217;s Henry Farrell has a great response <a title=\"Why the Stevens Op-Ed Is Wrong\" href=\"http:\/\/themonkeycage.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/24\/why-the-stevens-op-ed-is-wrong\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, Stanford&#8217;s James Fearon &#8212; whose work is singled out by Stevens as the type of work she dislikes &#8212; has his own response <a title=\"Grievances and Civil War\" href=\"http:\/\/themonkeycage.org\/blog\/2012\/06\/27\/grievances-and-civil-war\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>,\u00a0and forecaster extraordinaire Jay Ulfelder responds <a title=\"In Defense of Political Science and Forecasting\" href=\"http:\/\/dartthrowingchimp.wordpress.com\/2012\/06\/24\/in-defense-of-political-science-and-forecasting\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>What I am going to take issue with here instead is a two-sentence excerpt. Indeed, in her op-ed, Stevens writes of empirical research in political science that<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Many of today\u2019s peer-reviewed studies offer trivial confirmations of the obvious (&#8230;).\u00a0I look forward to seeing what happens to my discipline and politics more generally once we stop mistaking probability studies and statistical significance for knowledge.<\/p>\n<p>Trivial confirmations of the obvious, really?<!--more--><\/p>\n<h3>Have Beliefs, Will Travel<\/h3>\n<p>This reminds me of a comment I received from an anonymous referee a while ago on a paper I had submitted for publication.<\/p>\n<p>In that paper, I was trying to show that a variable <em><\/em>X caused outcome <em><\/em>Y. To be sure, X and Y were correlated. But this didn&#8217;t mean that X\u00a0<em>caused<\/em> Y. So I worked extra hard to convince the reader that my research design effectively identified the causal relationship flowing from X to Y. And in that case, knowing whether X caused Y was actually pretty important for policy.<\/p>\n<p>The specific comment I received from one of the referees was:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I question the rationale for the paper &#8211; i.e. do we really need statistical evidence on this question?<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s how I feel inside when I get comments like that:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6860\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6860\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/walter-sobchak.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-6860\" title=\"walter-sobchak\" src=\"http:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/walter-sobchak-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/walter-sobchak-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/marcfbellemare.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/walter-sobchak.jpg 533w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6860\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Portrait of the Artists as a Stung Man.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In this case, as in the case of Stevens op-ed, &#8220;trivial confirmations of the obvious&#8221; and &#8220;Do we really need statistical evidence on this question?&#8221; really lies in the eye of the beholder.<\/p>\n<p>And the beholder believing that X causes Y does not make it so. After all, there are people who think that there is a greater than 50 percent chance that red will come up at roulette after black came up four times in a row, a belief that is demonstrably false.<\/p>\n<p>Establishing a causal relationship can be far from trivial when the relationship in question involves human beings (those pesky people don&#8217;t behave like molecules and have a mind of their own, how dare they?) <a title=\"&quot;It's Hard Work.&quot;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ReoKQlOF4XY\" target=\"_blank\">It&#8217;s hard work.<\/a> In most cases, we\u00a0<em>do<\/em> need statistical evidence. This (not exactly) just in: Correlation is not causation.<\/p>\n<p>And\u00a0in cases where statistical work actually does confirm the obvious, there is still a great deal of value in knowing the exact magnitude of the impact of X on Y. Rational agents take decisions by carefully comparing costs and benefits.<\/p>\n<p>So yeah, I guess we all know that a college degree means a higher income in the future. But before someone spends <a title=\"Northwestern Tuition 2011-2012\" href=\"http:\/\/www.northwestern.edu\/newscenter\/stories\/2011\/03\/costs-set.html\" target=\"_blank\">$41,592 per year on a college degree<\/a>, they might want to have an idea of how much money they will make once they start working.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An op-ed by Jacqueline Stevens a few weekends ago in the New York Times made a lot of waves. 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